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How do you punish the double fianchetto

You really cant, but you do have to keep an eye at all times.

Every single move changes the position, specially pawn moves.
When a pawn moves forward, it secures 1-3 squares. The one where they currently are (if t hey cant be captured), and and 2 in their normal taking position.

But, they also leave 1-3 possible weaknesses, where they were, and where they could capture.

The moment they leave a weakness, you should try to activate your pieces there. Not sure if you could win, but you could have been on the offense, or at least force open some lines on your terms, not on his terms.

Long knight maneuvers are always in the table on closed positions, as the game is not very dinamic, the position wont change that fast.

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Recently I wrote an article covering the Reti opening for a small correspondence chess magazine. I am just to lazy to translate it thoroughly so here is the automated translation:

"The Réti opening

The Austro-Hungarian chess player Richard Réti (1889-1929) immortalized himself in the chess world in two ways. On the one hand through his practical endgame studies - all m ahead thefamous royal manoeuvre, which was named after him - and on the other hand through his "hypermodern" treatment of the opening by the attractive. The revolutionary thing about it was to initially hold back the center peasants, to fianchet the runners and later to blow up the opposing center or finally to occupy it sustainably themselves. There are hardly any "bad" white figures. This very flexible opening system, usually starting with Sf3 and c4 along with g3/Lg2 and b3/Lb2, also bears his name. With white he was on an equal footing with the world's top, with black, however, there was unfortunately no counterpart, both could be done, among other things. in the strong tournament in New York in 1924.

Chess is not a game of cooperation, the opponent will always try to raise the game diametrically opposed to his own ideas. This means that anything you put exposed in the landscape can serve as an attack mark or lever for the opponent. Do I play such debilitating traits as Dutch... f7-f5, the opponent will start right there, that's what Captain Obvious tells us. However, one should also be aware that this applies universally, i.e. also for active and healthy traits. In the Caro-Kann advance variant, the desired "proactive" runner train 3. ... Lf5 immediately mark a target for the opponent and White can try to exploit exactly this. The problem is therefore complex; just because you have the freedom to do something immediately, it is by no means a self-runner, it can also turn out to be a weakness. Therefore, waiting is also an option. And Réti postulated this even for center farmers: 1. d4, for example, weakens the field e4 and after 1. ... d5, the desirable e2-e4 is no longer so easy to enforce. Furthermore, white has to go to e.B. ... c5 explain how he wants to continue playing with his stone on d4, which is in his sights.

So back to the Réti opening, starting with 1st Sf3. In many cases, the idea behind it is not so exotic. It is often tried to set up a closed game in the style of English or Catalan using d4+c4 without being bothered with sharp defenses such as Ben-Oni, Benkö or Budapest Gambit. There is initially no potential target on d4, this farmer comes into play later. Dutch is also far less problematic without white d4, because e4 is not weakened (d2-d3! as an antidote). Even little things like women's Indian with ... La6 is practically prevented, only the slightly more passive ... Lb7 is possible. The opponent should therefore be tricked with the train sequence, "ge-move-ordered" as they say today. Many world champions had the Réti opening in their repertoire, auch Kramnik is considered a prominent advocate.

With this match, Réti himself ended World Champion Capablanca's 8-year streak without defeat. The extended Fianchetto 3. b4!? is still a good option today, often you have a few more tempi compared to a comparable position in the English opening."
@Sarg0n said in #13:
> Recently I wrote an article covering the Reti opening for a small correspondence chess magazine. I am just to lazy to translate it thoroughly so here is the automated translation:
>
> "The Réti opening
>
> The Austro-Hungarian chess player Richard Réti (1889-1929) immortalized himself in the chess world in two ways. On the one hand through his practical endgame studies - all m ahead thefamous royal manoeuvre, which was named after him - and on the other hand through his "hypermodern" treatment of the opening by the attractive. The revolutionary thing about it was to initially hold back the center peasants, to fianchet the runners and later to blow up the opposing center or finally to occupy it sustainably themselves. There are hardly any "bad" white figures. This very flexible opening system, usually starting with Sf3 and c4 along with g3/Lg2 and b3/Lb2, also bears his name. With white he was on an equal footing with the world's top, with black, however, there was unfortunately no counterpart, both could be done, among other things. in the strong tournament in New York in 1924.
>
> Chess is not a game of cooperation, the opponent will always try to raise the game diametrically opposed to his own ideas. This means that anything you put exposed in the landscape can serve as an attack mark or lever for the opponent. Do I play such debilitating traits as Dutch... f7-f5, the opponent will start right there, that's what Captain Obvious tells us. However, one should also be aware that this applies universally, i.e. also for active and healthy traits. In the Caro-Kann advance variant, the desired "proactive" runner train 3. ... Lf5 immediately mark a target for the opponent and White can try to exploit exactly this. The problem is therefore complex; just because you have the freedom to do something immediately, it is by no means a self-runner, it can also turn out to be a weakness. Therefore, waiting is also an option. And Réti postulated this even for center farmers: 1. d4, for example, weakens the field e4 and after 1. ... d5, the desirable e2-e4 is no longer so easy to enforce. Furthermore, white has to go to e.B. ... c5 explain how he wants to continue playing with his stone on d4, which is in his sights.
>
> So back to the Réti opening, starting with 1st Sf3. In many cases, the idea behind it is not so exotic. It is often tried to set up a closed game in the style of English or Catalan using d4+c4 without being bothered with sharp defenses such as Ben-Oni, Benkö or Budapest Gambit. There is initially no potential target on d4, this farmer comes into play later. Dutch is also far less problematic without white d4, because e4 is not weakened (d2-d3! as an antidote). Even little things like women's Indian with ... La6 is practically prevented, only the slightly more passive ... Lb7 is possible. The opponent should therefore be tricked with the train sequence, "ge-move-ordered" as they say today. Many world champions had the Réti opening in their repertoire, auch Kramnik is considered a prominent advocate.
>
> With this match, Réti himself ended World Champion Capablanca's 8-year streak without defeat. The extended Fianchetto 3. b4!? is still a good option today, often you have a few more tempi compared to a comparable position in the English opening."
That’s why I play the reti opening
@Sarg0n said in #13:
> Recently I wrote an article covering the Reti opening for a small correspondence chess magazine. I am just to lazy to translate it thoroughly so here is the automated translation:
>
> "The Réti opening
>
> The Austro-Hungarian chess player Richard Réti (1889-1929) immortalized himself in the chess world in two ways. On the one hand through his practical endgame studies - all m ahead thefamous royal manoeuvre, which was named after him - and on the other hand through his "hypermodern" treatment of the opening by the attractive. The revolutionary thing about it was to initially hold back the center peasants, to fianchet the runners and later to blow up the opposing center or finally to occupy it sustainably themselves. There are hardly any "bad" white figures. This very flexible opening system, usually starting with Sf3 and c4 along with g3/Lg2 and b3/Lb2, also bears his name. With white he was on an equal footing with the world's top, with black, however, there was unfortunately no counterpart, both could be done, among other things. in the strong tournament in New York in 1924.
>
> Chess is not a game of cooperation, the opponent will always try to raise the game diametrically opposed to his own ideas. This means that anything you put exposed in the landscape can serve as an attack mark or lever for the opponent. Do I play such debilitating traits as Dutch... f7-f5, the opponent will start right there, that's what Captain Obvious tells us. However, one should also be aware that this applies universally, i.e. also for active and healthy traits. In the Caro-Kann advance variant, the desired "proactive" runner train 3. ... Lf5 immediately mark a target for the opponent and White can try to exploit exactly this. The problem is therefore complex; just because you have the freedom to do something immediately, it is by no means a self-runner, it can also turn out to be a weakness. Therefore, waiting is also an option. And Réti postulated this even for center farmers: 1. d4, for example, weakens the field e4 and after 1. ... d5, the desirable e2-e4 is no longer so easy to enforce. Furthermore, white has to go to e.B. ... c5 explain how he wants to continue playing with his stone on d4, which is in his sights.
>
> So back to the Réti opening, starting with 1st Sf3. In many cases, the idea behind it is not so exotic. It is often tried to set up a closed game in the style of English or Catalan using d4+c4 without being bothered with sharp defenses such as Ben-Oni, Benkö or Budapest Gambit. There is initially no potential target on d4, this farmer comes into play later. Dutch is also far less problematic without white d4, because e4 is not weakened (d2-d3! as an antidote). Even little things like women's Indian with ... La6 is practically prevented, only the slightly more passive ... Lb7 is possible. The opponent should therefore be tricked with the train sequence, "ge-move-ordered" as they say today. Many world champions had the Réti opening in their repertoire, auch Kramnik is considered a prominent advocate.
>
> With this match, Réti himself ended World Champion Capablanca's 8-year streak without defeat. The extended Fianchetto 3. b4!? is still a good option today, often you have a few more tempi compared to a comparable position in the English opening."
I see your point. I'd like to know how to get your article.
@Professor74 said in #17:
> I see your point. I'd like to know how to get your article.

4 times / year I write something for them. Here'the latest (diagrams removed)

Die Réti-Eröffnung

Der österreichisch-ungarische Schachspieler Richard Réti (1889-1929) hat sich in der Schachwelt auf zweierlei Arten verewigt. Einerseits durch seine praktischen Endspielstudien - allem voran das berühmte Königsmanöver, welches nach ihm benannt wurde - und andererseits durch seine "hypermoderne" Behandlung der Eröffnung durch den Anziehenden. Das Revolutionäre daran war, die Zentrumsbauern zunächst zurückzuhalten, die Läufer zu fianchettieren und später erst das gegnerische Zentrum zu sprengen oder final selbst nachhaltig zu besetzen. "Schlechte" weiße Figuren gibt es dabei kaum. Dieses sehr flexible Eröffnungssystem, meist beginnend mit Sf3 und c4 nebst g3/Lg2 und b3/Lb2 trägt auch seinen Namen. Mit Weiß war er damit mit der Weltspitze auf Augenhöhe, mit Schwarz gab es dagegen leider kein Pendant, beides konnte man u.a. in dem stark besetzten Turnier in New York 1924 beobachten.

Schach ist kein Spiel der Kooperation, der Gegner wird immer versuchen, das Spiel diametral entgegengesetzt zu den eigenen Ideen aufzuziehen. Das bedeutet, dass alles, was man exponiert in die Landschaft stellt, dem Gegner als Angriffsmarke oder Hebel dienen kann. Spiele ich solche schwächenden Züge wie das Holländische ... f7-f5, wird der Gegner genau dort ansetzen, das sagt uns Captain Obvious. Allerdings sollte einem auch bewusst sein, dass dies universell gilt, also auch für aktive und gesunde Züge. In der Caro-Kann-Vorstoßvariante kann der gewünschte "proaktive" Läuferzug 3. ... Lf5 sofort ein Target für den Gegner markieren und Weiß kann versuchen, genau dies auszunutzen. Die Problematik ist also vielschichtig; nur weil man die Freiheit hat, etwas sofort auszuführen, wird es noch lange kein Selbstläufer, es kann sich auch als eine Schwäche entpuppen. Daher, warten ist also durchaus auch eine Option. Und Réti postulierte dies sogar für Zentrumsbauern: 1. d4 schwächt beispielsweise das Feld e4 und nach 1. ... d5 ist das wünschenswerte e2-e4 nicht mehr so leicht durchzusetzen. Weiterhin muss sich Weiß nach z.B. ... c5 erklären, wie er weiterspielen will mit seinem Stein auf d4, der ja im Visier ist.

Zurück also zur Réti-Eröffnung, startend mit 1. Sf3. In vielen Fällen ist die Idee dahinter auch gar nicht so exotisch. Es wird oft versucht, ein geschlossenes Spiel im Stile von Englisch oder Katalanisch mittels d4+c4 aufzuziehen, ohne mit scharfen Verteidigungen wie Ben-Oni, Benkö- oder Budapester Gambit belästigt zu werden. Es steht zunächst kein potenzielles Ziel auf d4, dieser Bauer kommt erst später ins Spiel. Auch Holländisch ist ohne weißes d4 bei weitem unproblematischer, denn e4 ist nicht geschwächt (d2-d3! als Antidot). Auch Kleinigkeiten wie Damenindisch mit ... La6 ist praktisch verhindert, lediglich das etwas passivere ... Lb7 ist möglich. Der Gegner soll also mit der Zugfolge ausgetrickst werden, "ge-move-ordered" wie man heutzutage sagt. Viele Weltmeister hatten die Réti-Eröffnung in ihrem Repertoire, auch Kramnik gilt als prominenter Verfechter.

Mit dieser Partie beendete Réti himself Weltmeister Capablancas 8 Jahre andauernde Strähne ohne Niederlage. Das erweiterte Fianchetto 3. b4!? ist auch heute noch eine gute Option, oft hat man einige Tempi mehr gegenüber einer vergleichbaren Stellung in der Englischen Eröffnung.

Réti, Richard - Capablanca, Jose Raul
New York (5), 22.03.1924

1.f3 f6 2.c4 g6 3.b4!? g7 4.b2 0–0 5.g3 b6 6.g2 b7 Das Gegen-Doppelfianchetto ist keine schlechte Erwiderung.

7.0–0 d6 8.d3 bd7 9.bd2 e5 10.c2 Alles ganz ruhig.

10.e5?? g2 11.d7 f1 12.f8 (12.f6 f6 13.f6 f6–+) 12...h3–+

10...e8 11.fd1 a5 12.a3 h6 13.f1 c5 14.b5?! 14.e5! Hier scheint es dagegen zu gehen. 14...g2 15.d7 d7 16.g2 ab4 17.ab4 a1 18.a1 cb4 19.b1

14...f8 15.e3 c7 16.d4? Vielleicht zur falschen Zeit!?

16...e4 17.c3 ed4 18.ed4 6d7?! 18...e6! 19.dc5 (19.c1 ac8) 19...dc5 und Schwarz steht gut.

19.d2 cd4 20.d4 c4 21.g7 g7 22.b2! Typisch, die Dame wird oft der Ersatz-Fianchettoläufer.

22...g8 23.d6 c5 24.ad1 a7 25.e3 h5 26.d4 g2 27.g2 e5 28.c4+– Weiß hat die viel bessere Koordination.

28...c5 29.c6 c7 30.e3 e5 31.1d5

31.1d5 c4 32.c5 b2 33.c2 a4 34.d5+– Et rien ne va plus.

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Eine Kurzpartie von mir zu diesem Thema aus der Liga.

Müller, Markus (2128) - Ripsam, Reinhard (1944)
1. Pfalzliga 19/20 Mutterstadt (7.3), 19.01.2020

1.f3 f6 2.c4 g6 3.b4 g7 4.b2 0–0 5.g3 a5 6.b5 c6 7.g2 d6 8.0–0 e6 9.d3 cb5 10.cb5 Der Springer b8 ist und bleibt das Problemkind bis zum Ende der Partie.

10...d7

11.c3N Vorgänger: 11.a3 h3 12.h3 h3 13.c1 c8 14.c8 c8 15.a1 Die typische Réti-Batterie. 15...bd7 16.c1 d8 17.c3 e8 18.d4 d5 19.d2 e6 20.c2 f8 21.c1 b6 22.e5 f6 23.d3 a3 24.a3 c4 25.c1 b6 1/2–1/2 (25) Hammond,A-Shephard,M London 1995

11...h3 12.c1 g2 13.g2 h5? 14.b3 g4?? Mit der Idee ... Sf4+, aber das ist alles ziemlich durchsichtig.

15.d5 e6 16.c4+– c4 17.e7 h8 18.g7 g7 19.c4 d8 20.c3 f6 21.c8 b6 22.b6 a7 23.d4 f7

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Kasparovs Kabinettstückchen, die entscheidende Partie der WM 1987 in Sevilla. Weiß musste gewinnen, um mit 12:12 auszugleichen und Weltmeister zu bleiben.

Kasparov, Garry (2740) - Karpov, Anatoly (2700)
WM 1987 Sevilla (24), 18.12.1987

1.c4 e6 2.f3 f6 3.g3 d5 4.b3 e7 5.g2 0–0 6.0–0 b6 7.b2 b7 8.e3 bd7 9.c3 e4 Will abtauschen, Schwarz reicht ja ein Remis.

10.e2!? Weiß behält Figuren.

=10.cd5; =10.e2

10...a5 11.d3 f6 12.c2 b2 13.b2 d6 14.cd5 d5 15.d4 c5 16.fd1 Antizipiert eine Öffnung der d-Linie.

16...c8 17.f4 f3 18.f3 e7 19.ac1 fd8 20.dc5 c5 21.b4! Xb6 bleibt schwach.

21...ab4 22.b4 a7 23.a3 f5 24.b1 d1 25.d1 c7 26.d3 h6 27.c1 e7 28.b5 f5 29.a4 d6 30.b1 a7 31.e5 a4 32.c8 c8 33.d1 Gleichzeitig behält Weiß auch den gegnerischen König im Visier.

33.b5! h7 34.c6 a8 35.d3 f5 (35...g6 36.d7 g7 37.e5+–) 36.d8 c5 37.g2 (37.e8!+–) 37...a2 38.e5! (38.c8?? d3) 38...b2 39.f7 f6 40.h8 g6 41.g8!+– f7 42.h5+–

33...e7? 33...c5! 34.d8 h7 35.g2= (35.c8 a1 36.g2 e5)

34.d8 h7 35.f7 g6 36.e8 e7 37.a4 f7 38.e4 g8 39.b5 f8 40.b6 f6

Kann Weiß gewinnen?

41.b5 e7 42.g2 g6 43.a5 g7 44.c5 f7 45.h4 h5?! 45...g7 Warten ist vielleicht besser.

46.c6 e7 47.d3 f7 48.d6 g7 49.e4 g8 50.c4 g7 51.e5 g8 52.d6 g7 53.b5 g8 54.c6 a7 55.b4 c7 56.b7 d8 57.e5 a5 58.e8 c5 59.f7 h8 60.a4 d5 61.h2 c5 62.b3 c8 63.d1 c5 64.g2

64.g2 b4 65.f3 c5 66.e4 b4 67.f3! (67.g6?? g6 68.g6 b7 69.h2 g2! 70.g2 Patt.) 67...d2 68.h3 b4 69.g6 g6 70.g6 h4 71.g2! Der Bh5 hebt das Patt auf.

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